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		<title>By: Syed Tayyab Ali</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zaid Hamid is actually a biggest cult of modern age.
http://zaidhamidexposition.org/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zaid Hamid is actually a biggest cult of modern age.<br />
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		<title>By: Zaid Hamid analysis and commentary - Page 13 - Pakistan Defence Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zaid Hamid analysis and commentary - Page 13 - Pakistan Defence Forum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Not Ranked&#160; :&#160; +0 / -0&#160; 0&#160;score&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160;    Re: Zaid Hamid analysis and commentary      Good article on this clown. Our source of national pride? Mystified Justice [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Not Ranked&nbsp; :&nbsp; +0 / -0&nbsp; 0&nbsp;score&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;    Re: Zaid Hamid analysis and commentary      Good article on this clown. Our source of national pride? Mystified Justice [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shahid</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very nice article and a very intelluctual way of looking at it... I love the punch line at the end of the article
&quot;Pakistan should wake up, but not to a new dawn of racism and bigotry.&quot;
and in reply to this I would say &quot;most definitely&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nice article and a very intelluctual way of looking at it&#8230; I love the punch line at the end of the article<br />
&#8220;Pakistan should wake up, but not to a new dawn of racism and bigotry.&#8221;<br />
and in reply to this I would say &#8220;most definitely&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: shahidK</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s sick... the tragedy is that the illetrate and/or ill-educated ppl of Pakistan find these speach very fancy and attractive!!! 
One thing which I fail to understand why aren&#039;t we&#039;re having ppl with opposite ideology!!! Why can&#039;t our intelluctuals come forward and mobillize youth to the positive things failing ppl like Zaid]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s sick&#8230; the tragedy is that the illetrate and/or ill-educated ppl of Pakistan find these speach very fancy and attractive!!!<br />
One thing which I fail to understand why aren&#8217;t we&#8217;re having ppl with opposite ideology!!! Why can&#8217;t our intelluctuals come forward and mobillize youth to the positive things failing ppl like Zaid</p>
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		<title>By: Natasha</title>
		<link>http://sanasaleem.com/2010/02/05/our-source-of-national-pride/#comment-2270</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well written.Seen this? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Dy7ZUuRtU&amp;feature=player_embedded


How&#039;s this &#039;waking up&#039; Pakistan I wonder.And I fail to understand why would any Pakistani want to &#039;conquer&#039; India.What&#039;s the charm?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written.Seen this? </p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://sanasaleem.com/2010/02/05/our-source-of-national-pride/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/87Dy7ZUuRtU/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>How&#8217;s this &#8216;waking up&#8217; Pakistan I wonder.And I fail to understand why would any Pakistani want to &#8216;conquer&#8217; India.What&#8217;s the charm?</p>
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		<title>By: Bobalu Chowdury</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another great article from you. Thanks. God help Pakistan if ever someone like this got control. It amazes me how easily the youth are led astray. Especially on the internet. These are the youth who have the opportunity for education and access to information and they misuse the opportunity by embracing wreckless retoric. Have you heard of the www.wakeupproject.com? These guys are getting quite a following. They make online videos targetting Muslim youth, telling them that the west is running a world order based on the satanic cult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great article from you. Thanks. God help Pakistan if ever someone like this got control. It amazes me how easily the youth are led astray. Especially on the internet. These are the youth who have the opportunity for education and access to information and they misuse the opportunity by embracing wreckless retoric. Have you heard of the <a href="http://www.wakeupproject.com?" rel="nofollow">http://www.wakeupproject.com?</a> These guys are getting quite a following. They make online videos targetting Muslim youth, telling them that the west is running a world order based on the satanic cult.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamshaid Khan Barki</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamshaid Khan Barki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was on a forumpakistan, I heard his name for the first time but over looked him. Some people spread false rumours against themselves or their friends to gain cheap advertisement. Reaching to this stage to offer my useless comments on your article, I read your article, Dr. Mohsin Ansari&#039;s article and also some more and useful  stuffs on net. The man, you all, are talking about is not so simple, what he looks like. His past must be brought in front of people. A man who believes in fantasy can not bring any revolution but distortion. Now what we and our nation need, is to disclose this man&#039;s secrecy. Untill our national guardian agencies and our loyal  journalists help us, we cannot do it at all. We need few volunteers from Pakistani Media and muslim world to take over the case with great zeal and zest to disclose this man at any cost. Atleast we need not more Fazalullah and Baitullah on this land of Pakistan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was on a forumpakistan, I heard his name for the first time but over looked him. Some people spread false rumours against themselves or their friends to gain cheap advertisement. Reaching to this stage to offer my useless comments on your article, I read your article, Dr. Mohsin Ansari&#8217;s article and also some more and useful  stuffs on net. The man, you all, are talking about is not so simple, what he looks like. His past must be brought in front of people. A man who believes in fantasy can not bring any revolution but distortion. Now what we and our nation need, is to disclose this man&#8217;s secrecy. Untill our national guardian agencies and our loyal  journalists help us, we cannot do it at all. We need few volunteers from Pakistani Media and muslim world to take over the case with great zeal and zest to disclose this man at any cost. Atleast we need not more Fazalullah and Baitullah on this land of Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: Azhar Ayaz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Azhar Ayaz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Sana!
I thank you for posting zaid&#039;s expedients for all.
This is so unsenical to hear Mr. Zaid to revive nationalism by putting people to war with India while neglecting the true essence of nationalism. These people make money and break news by their lunatic statements and remain in news.
Our nationalist philosophy which is based upon baseless Two-nation theory which is contrary to the convictions and teachings of Islam has done a lot of damage in last 60 plus years. still we are nowhere. and dont know where to go..what he is giving to youth of Pakistan is nasty stuff . Please, stop such people otherwise we are sure to reach at the deepest point of uncertainity, identity crisis, mass slaughter. Peace and educatio, social justice are our issues. poverty is our disease, population is a threat for people to wage war on resources and amidst all this he is directing us to hell.
Think again]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sana!<br />
I thank you for posting zaid&#8217;s expedients for all.<br />
This is so unsenical to hear Mr. Zaid to revive nationalism by putting people to war with India while neglecting the true essence of nationalism. These people make money and break news by their lunatic statements and remain in news.<br />
Our nationalist philosophy which is based upon baseless Two-nation theory which is contrary to the convictions and teachings of Islam has done a lot of damage in last 60 plus years. still we are nowhere. and dont know where to go..what he is giving to youth of Pakistan is nasty stuff . Please, stop such people otherwise we are sure to reach at the deepest point of uncertainity, identity crisis, mass slaughter. Peace and educatio, social justice are our issues. poverty is our disease, population is a threat for people to wage war on resources and amidst all this he is directing us to hell.<br />
Think again</p>
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		<title>By: Ashraf</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sana, a great article from you that I was able to read in Dawn.com about Zain Hamid. It is a great service to our country to expose such demegogues. I left my short comments over there too under my name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sana, a great article from you that I was able to read in Dawn.com about Zain Hamid. It is a great service to our country to expose such demegogues. I left my short comments over there too under my name.</p>
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		<title>By: talal</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I submitted this comment on dawn blog under your article but somehow it was never posted by dawn. I will try posting it here so that you may get some feedback from a different mindset. 

Enjoy. 

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I agree with the author&#039;s views to a good extent. If we are in a problem, our first step should be to blame ourselves rather than pointing finger at others for our misfortune. Having said that, I do believe that there had always remain external elements in destabilizing Pakistan since its inception (i am sorry but you can only be too ignorant if you deny this fact). If anyone is really interested in understanding the world politics, what has been happening for past 100 or so years and where it is heading to I will strongly recommend you to read &#039;The Grand Chess Board&#039; by Zbigniew Brzezinski - &#039;The rulers of the world&#039; by John Pilger - and if you want to get an insight from historical text please read Allama Iqbal&#039;s &#039;Javaid Nama&#039; -

As far as Zaid Hamid and his statements about putting up the Pakistan flag on Red Fort Delhi is concerned, I would say that he is a bit too aggressive. He should not be thinking along those lines. But when I hear statements from Deepak Kapoor, Robert Gates and their likes, it makes me think that perhaps we deserve the right to reply in similar lines (not that it is the best way and we should be doing the same). The idea of taking over India comes out of frustration. But again, Zaid Hamid talking about taking over India is promptly denounced as intolerant but when CIA issues a map of Pakistan in 2015 with less than half of its original size, no one dares to declare CIA or US government as invaders, intolerant, terrorists etc. etc.

I agree, our solution does not lie in taking over India, but I think author has missed one point. You proudly labeled Zaid Hamid as intolerant, demagogue, &#039;could be hitler&#039; and what not, but you forgot to mention his another statement on which he emphasizes more than on the one you presented here, where he says that &#039;I am saying again: You will see that they (India) will start the war and by god we (Pakistan) will finish it&#039;. Now, I am not saying that war is the only solution, and we can&#039;t co-exist with tolerance but you need to look at the bigger picture as well. Only if you observe global politics closely with analytical mind you will realise that you (Pakistan) are attacked and defamed again and again in front of the world through media, whether it is a statement from any foreign government official or just the way any news about Pakistan is presented on foreign media. you are to be living in a fools paradise if you tend to think that governments of US, UK, EU countries, Israel, India and the present government of Pakistan are your friends in any way. Again, I am not talking about local people of these countries but their governments (that is one thing which most of the people misunderstand). The likes of Zaid Hamid are inevitable to sprout after such realisations. Again, that may not be the best way but you can not ignore them totally by calling them fools with other negative labels.

He is a staunch follower of Allama Iqbal. If you have any regards to the great poet-philosopher of the 20th century than read him up. Read his political/religious/intellectual works. Reading his few poems would not let you see the whole picture. Try to be his student and a new world will open up in front of you. If you do not regard him than you might need to question your knowledge because I don&#039;t think anyone atleast in Pakistan is near intellectual/knowledgeable as Allama Iqbal. If you think that he could be wrong and so is Zaid Hamid than fair enough, but atleast read him up inside out to make that conclusion, other wise give some room to his thought to some extent.

Everyone knows what is happening around the world and what is happening in Pakistan. Our country has already been invaded. And we, its citizens should be held responsible because we allowed others to do it. But this does not mean that those who are invading us are innocent. To make my point clear, invasion in a broad sense does not only mean that someone&#039;s land is physically occupied. Our culture, norms, social values and all the systems through which a society is governed (economics, politics, justice, academic) all have actually been hijacked. I will not go into its details here. I think if one intends to be a good observer with an open mind he/she will definitely realise how Pakistan has actually been taken over.

Anyhow, this is my perspective of the world, yours could be different. But I guess that is what we are here for: to share and learn.

:)

God bless]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I submitted this comment on dawn blog under your article but somehow it was never posted by dawn. I will try posting it here so that you may get some feedback from a different mindset. </p>
<p>Enjoy. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I agree with the author&#8217;s views to a good extent. If we are in a problem, our first step should be to blame ourselves rather than pointing finger at others for our misfortune. Having said that, I do believe that there had always remain external elements in destabilizing Pakistan since its inception (i am sorry but you can only be too ignorant if you deny this fact). If anyone is really interested in understanding the world politics, what has been happening for past 100 or so years and where it is heading to I will strongly recommend you to read &#8216;The Grand Chess Board&#8217; by Zbigniew Brzezinski &#8211; &#8216;The rulers of the world&#8217; by John Pilger &#8211; and if you want to get an insight from historical text please read Allama Iqbal&#8217;s &#8216;Javaid Nama&#8217; -</p>
<p>As far as Zaid Hamid and his statements about putting up the Pakistan flag on Red Fort Delhi is concerned, I would say that he is a bit too aggressive. He should not be thinking along those lines. But when I hear statements from Deepak Kapoor, Robert Gates and their likes, it makes me think that perhaps we deserve the right to reply in similar lines (not that it is the best way and we should be doing the same). The idea of taking over India comes out of frustration. But again, Zaid Hamid talking about taking over India is promptly denounced as intolerant but when CIA issues a map of Pakistan in 2015 with less than half of its original size, no one dares to declare CIA or US government as invaders, intolerant, terrorists etc. etc.</p>
<p>I agree, our solution does not lie in taking over India, but I think author has missed one point. You proudly labeled Zaid Hamid as intolerant, demagogue, &#8216;could be hitler&#8217; and what not, but you forgot to mention his another statement on which he emphasizes more than on the one you presented here, where he says that &#8216;I am saying again: You will see that they (India) will start the war and by god we (Pakistan) will finish it&#8217;. Now, I am not saying that war is the only solution, and we can&#8217;t co-exist with tolerance but you need to look at the bigger picture as well. Only if you observe global politics closely with analytical mind you will realise that you (Pakistan) are attacked and defamed again and again in front of the world through media, whether it is a statement from any foreign government official or just the way any news about Pakistan is presented on foreign media. you are to be living in a fools paradise if you tend to think that governments of US, UK, EU countries, Israel, India and the present government of Pakistan are your friends in any way. Again, I am not talking about local people of these countries but their governments (that is one thing which most of the people misunderstand). The likes of Zaid Hamid are inevitable to sprout after such realisations. Again, that may not be the best way but you can not ignore them totally by calling them fools with other negative labels.</p>
<p>He is a staunch follower of Allama Iqbal. If you have any regards to the great poet-philosopher of the 20th century than read him up. Read his political/religious/intellectual works. Reading his few poems would not let you see the whole picture. Try to be his student and a new world will open up in front of you. If you do not regard him than you might need to question your knowledge because I don&#8217;t think anyone atleast in Pakistan is near intellectual/knowledgeable as Allama Iqbal. If you think that he could be wrong and so is Zaid Hamid than fair enough, but atleast read him up inside out to make that conclusion, other wise give some room to his thought to some extent.</p>
<p>Everyone knows what is happening around the world and what is happening in Pakistan. Our country has already been invaded. And we, its citizens should be held responsible because we allowed others to do it. But this does not mean that those who are invading us are innocent. To make my point clear, invasion in a broad sense does not only mean that someone&#8217;s land is physically occupied. Our culture, norms, social values and all the systems through which a society is governed (economics, politics, justice, academic) all have actually been hijacked. I will not go into its details here. I think if one intends to be a good observer with an open mind he/she will definitely realise how Pakistan has actually been taken over.</p>
<p>Anyhow, this is my perspective of the world, yours could be different. But I guess that is what we are here for: to share and learn.<br />
 <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>God bless</p>
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